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300
Mar 31, 2007 23:16:35 GMT -5
Post by Evilduck on Mar 31, 2007 23:16:35 GMT -5
I didn't like 300. It was obviously political and pro-Iraq War.
Persians = terrorist army attacking America King Leonidas = Bush Council = Congress Lecherous priests = Baker-Hamilton Comission Athenian troops = British troops Leonidas's wife = Condalezza Rice
Also the movie was mean to animals...
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300
Mar 31, 2007 23:37:06 GMT -5
Post by Random on Mar 31, 2007 23:37:06 GMT -5
Na, Leonidas actually had the balls to fight, thus, Leonidas =/= Bush
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300
Mar 31, 2007 23:39:04 GMT -5
Post by Archagon on Mar 31, 2007 23:39:04 GMT -5
Leonidas had a weird-ass accent.
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300
Apr 1, 2007 0:13:32 GMT -5
Post by bezzerkker on Apr 1, 2007 0:13:32 GMT -5
So does Bush? His isn't quite like any other Texan accent I've heard.
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300
Apr 1, 2007 1:28:00 GMT -5
Post by dietspam16 on Apr 1, 2007 1:28:00 GMT -5
I don't think Alexei meant that to mean that ergo Leonidas wasn't similar to bush, I think he was just commenting. But while we're on the subject, I heard a theory once that Bush's accent was actually fake. The reasoning was that he never used to have a very pronounced accent -- or that distinctive way of forgetting who he is halfway through a sentence -- until shortly before he ran for president- that when we was running for governor, and before that, Bush was actually relatively eloquent. Ergo the entire accent and braindamage "act" was simply to appeal a wide audience of America's myriad uneducated. Now I'm not saying that I actaully put any stock in this theory, especially since I have no proof, but it's intrigueing to consider that Bush isn't actually a complete nitwit but instead one of the greatest thespians of our time...
PS: I like you're analogy, though I doubt I'll agree with it, it's still amusing. HOwever, that armegeddon movie with the oil miners who fly into space to destroy an asteroid, THAT was one of the most unsubtle pieces of propaganda I've evar seen.
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300
May 2, 2007 0:50:28 GMT -5
Post by Evilduck on May 2, 2007 0:50:28 GMT -5
More importantly, your picture indicates that there is a movie of Neverwhere. Is it good?
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300
May 2, 2007 1:06:00 GMT -5
Post by Archagon on May 2, 2007 1:06:00 GMT -5
It's a mini-series, and according to IMDB, it's pretty good.
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300
May 2, 2007 1:33:24 GMT -5
Post by Little Miss Odd on May 2, 2007 1:33:24 GMT -5
I <3 the BBC!! It's a episode miniseries that is so fucking awesome it hurts. Gaiman scripted it first, and then later turned it into the novel.
I think it's the Mountain View Library that has the set. I watched it AGES ago. Multiple times.
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300
May 2, 2007 12:24:02 GMT -5
Post by dietspam16 on May 2, 2007 12:24:02 GMT -5
I've just about memorized the entire series and the book and they are fabulous. I've got the entire thing on tape somewhere. I'm doing a neverwhere fest at some point this summer and people are welcome to come if they want.
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300
May 2, 2007 14:15:10 GMT -5
Post by Monolith on May 2, 2007 14:15:10 GMT -5
300 wasn't pro-Iraq at all. People keep drawing this conclusion just because it's west vs. east and the word 'freedom' is mentioned. Other than that, there are a few points in the movie where they make it rather clear that it's not the same. That's not to mention the fact that Sparta and the US don't have much in common considdering children's rights.
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300
May 3, 2007 4:28:09 GMT -5
Post by Arachis on May 3, 2007 4:28:09 GMT -5
300 wasn't pro-Iraq at all. Of course it wasnt. But it did border on the anti-Iraq side. Although the story itself bore little similarity to current events (If anything, America would be the attacking empire, while Iraq would be the greeks defending themselves from tyranny and fighting to the last man.) Because of the one-sided perspective of the movie (it being told from a greek commanders point of view as he tries to inspire his army to attack the enemy) it unapologetically demonizes the persians and glorifies the greeks (or caucasians, because King Leonidas seems strangely un-greek). If thats not propoganda I dont know what is, even if it wasnt government sponsered or intentional.
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300
May 3, 2007 4:43:33 GMT -5
Post by Archagon on May 3, 2007 4:43:33 GMT -5
To be fair to the director/Frank Miller, the film is a 99% literal adaptation of the comic, which was first published in 1998. Also, what's wrong with propaganda in the context of the movie?
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300
May 3, 2007 13:39:18 GMT -5
Post by dietspam16 on May 3, 2007 13:39:18 GMT -5
I would aree wit ali wile makin te distinciton between east vs west and te iraq war... Cultural antaonism and misunderstandin ve existed since before and after te fall of te roman empire..
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300
May 3, 2007 18:36:44 GMT -5
Post by Monolith on May 3, 2007 18:36:44 GMT -5
If I understand what Alex is saying, then I have to agree. The movie's overarching plot is a very cliche trend of 'martyrs' fighting and dying for the freedom of their country. It bears similarities to the Iraq war, but so does every story of its type in all of history. If you want to look at it that way then I certainly won't try to stop you, but I personally think it's drawing parallels that were never intended to be there.
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300
May 4, 2007 0:38:10 GMT -5
Post by Evilduck on May 4, 2007 0:38:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really think it is pro-war. I expected it to be from the trailer, but when I saw the movie there wasn't much to back up my suspicion. But it was fun to try and draw random parallels, and I thought Lecherous priests = Baker-Hamilton Commission was pretty funny..
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