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Post by Archagon on Mar 8, 2004 0:16:06 GMT -5
Henry's right, and to accomplish something like that, you would need to either a) try to convert the information into code accessible to a programming language, b) MAKE the information into a programming language. Both require pretty much a 100% understanding of the mind and the universe and are, therefore, [nearly] impossible.
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Post by KillinKrillan on Mar 8, 2004 0:18:10 GMT -5
Your right...
If only we had some computer with the mind to tell someone how to do it! ;D
...Don't mind me...
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Post by Archagon on Mar 8, 2004 0:22:03 GMT -5
Actually, I changed my mind. It would also be possible, I suppose, to somehow meld a mind with a motherboard (or whatever it woudl be called...a human - computer interface board?), let it familiarize itself with the system, and, using its new-found knowledge, transmit itself to the hard drive in runnable format.
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Post by KillinKrillan on Mar 8, 2004 0:53:03 GMT -5
A very tricky process indeed...
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Post by Archagon on Mar 8, 2004 1:12:37 GMT -5
Anyways, I haven't answered the actual quesiton yet, so here goes...
The universe is centered around an equals sign, and nature always follows this rule. However, when the first humans appeared on Earth, this equation misbalanced a little. The problem was, humans had both imagination and machinery in their minds, and also will, and this gave them the ability to utilize one more than the other. Now, machinery (by which I mean the linear correlation between two or more events; encompasses foundations, relations, and actual machines) and creativity (imagination, emotion, whatever you wish to call it) are two conflicting forces: neither can survive by itself without being counterbalanced or removed by the universal equation, and neither can be a bigger force than the other. Humans created both great clockwork civilizations and great works of writing, music, and art; certainly, some periods of time had more of one thing than the other, but another time period always ironed this discrepancy out. Currently, (especially in America), we are suffering from an excess of “machinery” – our society revolves around gargantuan corporations, burgers, and oil. Creativity is frowned upon and conforming to accepted values and beliefs is a widely accepted norm. Religion is becoming more and more far-fetched to people because of breakthroughs in science. Poets and poetry mean almost nothing when compared to their popularity in the 19th century. All of this and more upsets the balance; another phase-change will occur soon, and we will once again decompose into a simpler makeup, perhaps because of war, or perhaps because of some global catastrophe. After this emotionally-and-creatively excessive time period, we will once again soar to a mechanical level, then back to semi-simplicity, and so forth until an equilibrium is found. Interestingly enough, because of will, humans always have the ability to prevent chaos by forcing themselves to maintain an equilibrium, but this requires tremendous force and the cooperation of many people, which unfortunately would be hard or even impossible to organize today.
Funny thing is, I think we all know that this is true. Look at movies such as The Terminator and The Matrix. Their concepts are basically the same – the world is taken over by a giant machine which strives to take out the last of humanity. Many other works, such as science fiction literature, reflect this concept. (on a side note, notice the irony of the fact that creativity was used to bring machinal domination to life)
So, in conclusion, I believe that humans are composed of a mechanical side and an emotional side, constantly fluctuating, and balanced on a furculum of willpower.
Sorry if I had any mistakes in there or if my writing seems crappy...I've been meditating on this concept for quite some time now, and it is difficult to sum up years of thought into a paragraph 15 minutes long.
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Post by AZERTY on Mar 9, 2004 18:59:21 GMT -5
no offense, but I disagree with you... You have been brought up with the romantic notion that machinery and creativity do not go together. However, to some people, computers, games programs, and factories are their creative output... Instead of writing stories, they, with a burst of inspiration, draw out the plans to a new and more efficient metal welder...
It is possibly true that nature focuses around balance... however even this I am sceptical about, wondering if it is only our perception of the universe, that makes it seem like it is pushing towards equilibrium.
however in a sense, I do agree with you.... with the rise of technology, often there appears a counter movement towards more traditional times, That a romantic movement is born, which in turn then becomes replaced by a generation who, sick of the unpractical uses of the imagination, instead seek to acheive something, and thereby usher in a new technological revolution.
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Post by Archagon on Mar 10, 2004 0:13:52 GMT -5
A physical machine is not confined to being a "machine" by its abstract definition. Many computer programs and even diagrams of welders can contain more creative elements than machinal ones.
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