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Post by Antid on Jan 16, 2004 23:56:50 GMT -5
I vote that mods should be restricted to 2 month terms because a separation of powers is necessary in order to prevent tyranny. But isn't Alexei elected democratically? With this new restriction, we will be limiting our own democracy. It's not that Terrance isn't given a chance, if everyone wanted him to be mod, he would get the votes. This regulation is essentially bypassing the vote, and making it pointless. It's an artificial way of getting people into the mod-office. And it isn't a division of power.
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Post by Archagon on Jan 17, 2004 0:40:39 GMT -5
Even in an unlimited term you must not grow too accustomed to power. I am always ready to hand over modship to someone else and I'd be willing to accept this proposition were the conditions fair. However, Terrance, who rarely visits the forum and then only for elections, created the poll to guarantee himself a position in the C-Lair staff. Plus, he cheated on it to get more votes. AND its winning even without them. If you were in my shoes, wouldn't that piss YOU off?
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Post by musicalbabe on Jan 17, 2004 1:04:56 GMT -5
Yes, Alexei IS elected democratically, but then there is always the assumption that the people do not know what is best. (I have nothing against Alexei, in fact I can't form much of an opinion whatsoever because I don't participate in the forum enough to even fully understand the responsibilities of a mod.) And no, it is not really a division of powers. It is, though, still a SEPARATION, and anyway, I was referring more to the checks of balances within them. Maybe I should have simply quoted Locke and said that it is the duty of the governed to be able to overthrow unjust rulers. But this really seems trivial compared to the ideas of The Enlightenment. I still think that others should be given a chance to prove themselves worthy or unworthy of a position as mod, though. If this was all created by Terrance in order to improve his chances of becoming a mod, though...
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Post by Antid on Jan 17, 2004 1:19:13 GMT -5
I'm sorry if I disappointed you in any way, but yeah, Terrance has a history for trying to dethrone Alexei around here. Also, don't forget that you DO have the ability to overthrow the government - you can vote! But you really shouldn't do it just for the sake of it - that's where you get chaos and destruction Alexei is a good mod. This new rule is very unfair to him. If Terrance wants to be mod, he should win in a FAIR election, don't you think?
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Post by Hans Lemurson on Jan 17, 2004 1:21:35 GMT -5
A fair election as opposed to Alexei being forbidden to run.
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Post by Antid on Jan 17, 2004 1:22:59 GMT -5
Exactly.
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Post by Hans Lemurson on Jan 17, 2004 2:24:11 GMT -5
10-8... political maneuvering disguised as a legitimate issue works I guess...
I should try that some time.
Wait, I guess that is the definition of political maneuvering...utilizing legitimate concerns for your personal gain.
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Post by Archagon on Jan 17, 2004 16:20:53 GMT -5
It is 9-8, until that 1 unaccounted for vote is explained under the "yes" category.
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Post by Salome on Jan 18, 2004 0:25:48 GMT -5
hello all, out of boredom, and cuz none of my friends were online and such, i returned to find a heated debate going on well, i said yes, limit the terms, new mods would be a nice change, i was starting to doubt that elections were even held
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Post by Haku on Jan 18, 2004 1:42:40 GMT -5
hmmm....what is pavel's decision?
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Post by Archagon on Jan 18, 2004 1:49:04 GMT -5
"Yes."
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Post by Haku on Jan 18, 2004 20:42:16 GMT -5
does that mean the final decision is made?
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Post by Archagon on Jan 18, 2004 21:29:25 GMT -5
No, it's a poll. That's just his vote.
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Post by geneva on Jan 19, 2004 0:25:21 GMT -5
good gracious this isn't a campaign to throw alexei out exclusivly. besides after he doesn't have a term he can run again happy go lucky.....
and whoever got voted in in his stead can't be mod forever either. they don't even have to have a full two terms if voted against.
alexei can still be mod 2/3 of the time...
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Post by Archagon on Jan 19, 2004 1:18:04 GMT -5
This isn't about me being mod. It's about Terrance becoming one.
Fine, as this is a democratic board, lest we get more negative votes I resign. Let it be the way you all want it to be.
I find this thread very ironic considering the original purpose of mod elections...
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