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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2004 23:13:48 GMT -5
Great cop-out, man.
What's your point?
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 22, 2004 23:14:39 GMT -5
and as you know communist is an abstract word. The soviets called themselves communist, Fidel Castro, and the chinese all called themselves communists and none of them had a real communist ogvernment. Fidel Castro's government was autocratic so in making an autocratic government you could be said to be making a communist one. Dont become literal when there are so many deffinitions to the same words.
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2004 23:18:14 GMT -5
Yeah, except that those were all misuse of the word. They ought to be discontinued - yet still they leave a big ugly growth on the otherwise moderately attractive face of communism.
example: if the Soviet Union had called their government democracy, would we still be calling it that today? Because democracy and the Soviet Union were about as close as communism and the Soviet Union.
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 22, 2004 23:19:55 GMT -5
well they were used anyway.... if others can use it .... why cant we?
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 22, 2004 23:21:56 GMT -5
well we call the soviet union communist so logically if that were the case... the soviet union WOULD be called democratic.
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Post by Antid on Jan 22, 2004 23:22:39 GMT -5
Yeah, except that those were all misuse of the word. They ought to be discontinued - yet still they leave a big ugly growth on the otherwise moderately attractive face of communism. example: if the Soviet Union had called their government democracy, would we still be calling it that today? Because democracy and the Soviet Union were about as close as communism and the Soviet Union. What's your point?
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Post by Archagon on Jan 22, 2004 23:23:16 GMT -5
I love this forum. It makes me laugh.
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2004 23:23:17 GMT -5
We can. But like I said before, it perpetuates the tarnish placed upon the good name of communism. As we all know that it's a misusage, we ought not eagerly join in said perpetuation. It is slander. We shouldn't perpetuate the misuse of the word communism. As do I. It maketh me chuckle greatly.
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Post by Antid on Jan 22, 2004 23:30:14 GMT -5
We shouldn't perpetuate the misuse of the word communism. We sure shouldn't. Too bad this doesn't further your cause (going back to where this whole thing stemmed from), and you're still the one being autocratic.
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2004 23:31:14 GMT -5
I know it.
What's wrong with autocracy, when the "leader" is one who we know will listen to the people, and objectively consider their positions?
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Post by Paveltc on Jan 22, 2004 23:35:54 GMT -5
I'm not for this idea, but everyone who is calling this autocratic and wrong should also consider that this is the way that pretty much every other forum on the web is run. The administrator chooses who he wants as mods and that's how it stays.
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Post by henry on Jan 22, 2004 23:37:43 GMT -5
There is, of course, no denying that this is autocratic.
But yeah.
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Post by bezzerkker on Jan 23, 2004 0:01:50 GMT -5
I voted no, because I would rather choose, or at least help choose, the moderators. Now, I may be guilty of not voting in the last election, but I was waiting for people to stop campaigning, or for their reasons to stop being stated, so I could consider all of them, then vote, but I ended up being busy the last day. So, to sum up what I was trying to say, and stop babbling, the democratic system may be flawed, but I haven't seen anything else that looks decent on paper and in reality.
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Post by Antid on Jan 23, 2004 0:03:15 GMT -5
To quote Winston Churchill for this occasion, "I hate democracy - I can't stand it! But there's no better alternative."
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 23, 2004 0:08:23 GMT -5
Yes, although most other forums are run autocraticly,
once we have tasted democracy we cannot go back....
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