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Post by dietspam16 on Dec 3, 2005 2:17:49 GMT -5
A recent article I read in one of my newspapers blatantly praised Intelligent design(google it)
A recent article I recently read in a scientific magazine snidely jeered at the concept of intelligent design.
This is happening in numerous publications worldwide. Is this good bad right wrong or just polka dotted?
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Post by narnia on Dec 3, 2005 2:27:57 GMT -5
It is banana cream pie....
Seriousley though, we should let everyone have their oppinion so long as they dont cause others harm. Not be mean to any group.
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Post by Random on Dec 3, 2005 2:28:52 GMT -5
personally i think its a load of crap but thats simply my opinion
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Post by laurel on Dec 3, 2005 2:35:42 GMT -5
Science is what can be measured and reproduced. Science classes should teach science, not theology.
"...I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence." --Open Letter to Kansas School Board
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Post by Archagon on Dec 3, 2005 16:36:21 GMT -5
Agreed. ID should be taught in Philosophy and Theology, not Science.
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Post by BlueDolphin on Dec 3, 2005 17:25:55 GMT -5
I second that
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Post by 010000010110110001 on Dec 3, 2005 17:36:25 GMT -5
Why can't people just keep their opinions like that to themselves, instead of fighting?
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Post by sullixav on Dec 3, 2005 18:01:22 GMT -5
i wish fools would stop trying to get this taught as a science because its not a bloody science. . . it should be taught in philosophy or theology if at all
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Post by laurel on Dec 3, 2005 18:26:57 GMT -5
i wish fools would stop trying to get this taught as a science because its not a bloody science. . . it should be taught in philosophy or theology if at all Yes...Alexei already said that, though. ID should be taught in Philosophy and Theology, not Science. I think we are in general agreeance that as long as you can seperate the science from the speculation, it would make an excellent philosophical discussion.
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Post by Arachis on Dec 4, 2005 2:56:55 GMT -5
Quite simply, I dont think it should be taught in public school. Putting it in a philosophy class sort of demerits it in my opinion, and while I think that its great if people believe it, that doesnt mean that others have to be subjected to their beliefs if they dont want to. Personally though, science isnt just about the knolwedge and the theories (though there is some of that in there too) but the class is also about the skills one uses in science that are equally important to the theory itself. to my knowledge learning ID doesnt have any such skills associated with it and therefore is not worth teaching in school.
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Post by 010000010110110001 on Dec 4, 2005 18:12:16 GMT -5
Yah ID should be taught in the home or reiligious place, not in classrooms
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Post by BlueDolphin on Dec 4, 2005 18:40:56 GMT -5
On that subject, why don't these people ever say anything about "equal time" in churches? It seems like a double standard to demand equality in one place but deny it in another.
Just for the record, I am not proposing that evolution be given "equal time" in religious places.
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Post by dietspam16 on Dec 4, 2005 21:43:29 GMT -5
Good point. The problem of course is that while we may view the two as very seperate, religion and science, the proponents of ID claim that it IS science and fact, and not just sunday school material, and want our young scientists to grow up seeing the world from that vantage point.
Unsurpriseingly, I disagree with this. Because the way I see it, ID fills two roles, not only does it act as a science in order to get its foot in the classroom door, but it also fills the gaps for scientists that they can't understand in evolution. Like what caused the big band and was before it, how life first started, and how certain appendages on certain bacteria evolved.
But by dismissing these things as gods handiwork, whether or not it it, we erase the need to explore and determine, which is the driving force behind science.
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Post by Random on Dec 4, 2005 21:49:17 GMT -5
yea, thats a good point, but as we saw in the past "because the bible says so" didn't stop science from evolving in the first place and looking at things differently
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Post by Max on Dec 5, 2005 1:04:27 GMT -5
it hindered them quite a bit, how many galileo type people could we have had if the catholic church had not been executing them?
oh, and btw, the vatican's chief astronomer (basically cheif scientists) himself confirmed that intelligent design would be more suitedly taught in a theology class than a science one
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