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Post by Archagon on Feb 26, 2004 1:11:42 GMT -5
They told us about sex, they told us about drugs, they told us about violence. They always said that the teenage years would be the hardest. Yet they never mentioned that they woud be riddled with losses, missteps, and suicidal thoughts.
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Post by AZERTY on Feb 26, 2004 2:09:50 GMT -5
wow... I guess I wasnt the only one not paying attention in EPM
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Post by Antid on Feb 26, 2004 21:13:12 GMT -5
... what?.... you can't kill something that's not there, both of you. if it's inside of me, then it's a part of me and i can do what i want with it. once, it's out, it's free to be an individual. Magister, in killing ourselves, do not imagine that we are therefore killing unborn children, for if you hold that philosphy, why then do you not already have children? Your abstinence has killed off hundreds.... We have the potential to have children, and I don't know about you, but I've already got the raw material. Even though they're not technically living organisms yet, they have the potential to be, and by killing yourself, you'd be depriving them of that potential.
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Post by AZERTY on Feb 27, 2004 18:05:44 GMT -5
As I said before... in that case you should not be complaining since your abstinence is killing hundreds of thousands of people... Why arent you doing it right now?
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Post by Antid on Feb 27, 2004 23:14:04 GMT -5
I'd love to have children! If I could have them now, I would! However, I realize that if I had children now,
a) I would not be able to provide for them materially b) I wouldn't be able to devote enough attention to them c) I don't have the experience yet that would make me a good parent d) I don't think society would look favorably on me e) I don't think I could find a spouse that would share my idea of having children now.
I am an atheist, but I think children are holy and sacred. They deserve to live well, and we are here to make sure that they do.
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Post by LastNightWasHell on Feb 28, 2004 0:39:29 GMT -5
As I said before... in that case you should not be complaining since your abstinence is killing hundreds of thousands of people... Why arent you doing it right now? um... so i was watching this video in health today. we just started the section where ms. christensen says penis and all the girls giggle and all the guys squirm uneasily. anyhoo, so in this video they said that everytime a guy ejaculates, he realeases like hundreds of millions of sperm. okay and that's like how many times a day? well the video also said that girls are only born with so many eggs, and then by the time they reach puberty that number's split a couple of times. so to get to the point a woman only has four hundred potential chances (did i get my point across by saying that?) to get pregnant. even then, not all of those would really become babies. and then there's that whole like nine month thing where you can't have a kid. and then like yeah. i'm not expecting you to understand, as you're a guy and you never will, no offence. so i guess what i'm getting at is that you're making this obserd suggestion. aaand i guess it really annoys me. in your whole life you will expell so many 'potential children' that it's like almost unfathomable. i'm sorry, but that's a lame excuse not to kill yourself.
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