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Post by AZERTY on Jan 23, 2004 19:43:06 GMT -5
Classical music is of a much higher nature than many of the punk rock you listen too... convert and you will see that the diversity of classical can sooth you or stir you up depending on the kind... I beleive you have been impressed upon by the slow boring kind of classical when there are more lively tunes that are often better... consult your local composer before exposing oneself to classical, you might accidentally start with some which could easily ruin your day... such as Ravel.
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Post by Archagon on Jan 23, 2004 19:58:18 GMT -5
I'm not too big of a fan of classical, but there are a few pieces that I treasure. My favorite is probably "The Moldau" by Smetana. It is...beautiful.
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 23, 2004 20:02:28 GMT -5
Im glad you find some interest in classical... everybody can and should find interest in classical.
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Post by Antid on Jan 23, 2004 20:09:01 GMT -5
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Post by Antid on Jan 23, 2004 20:11:07 GMT -5
My favorite is probably "The Moldau" by Smetana. It is...beautiful. I agree, that is really beautiful. I tend to lean less towards orchestral music and more towards chamber music, though.
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 23, 2004 20:22:04 GMT -5
I personally prefer Orchestral because it can sarround you with sound and interwine different instruments and melodies much better. The way I see it, listening to Chamber music is listening to the musicians... you listen to it to judge the ability of the musician and to appreciate his skill. Orchestral music is listening to the music you listen to it to appreciate the composers skill...
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Post by Antid on Jan 23, 2004 23:25:48 GMT -5
Not true.
Are you saying that writing chamber music requires less skill?
My first link - Rachmaninov's Prelude - that is chamber music. The second link - Dvorak's Symphony - is orchestral. They're both beautiful and require great composing skills. However orchestral works are at greater risk to create cocophony, because there are many instruments, many musicians, and hence lots of sounds. I prefer a singular sound that comes out nicely and cleanly. I find instrumentation exceeding single-digit numbers to be overbearing, for the most part. Dvorak's Symphony is one of the exceptions.
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 25, 2004 19:46:08 GMT -5
No I did not say that writing chamber music requires more skill, but rather than emphasize the composer, chamber music is more likely to emphasize on the skill of the musicians who play it because there are so few. Where as Orchestal music, because of the many instruments, allows for more variety in sound, and for the music to stand out over single musicians. For example, in chamber music you cant find much other than violins violas and occasionally woodwinds or piano, where as the size of an orchestra allows drums brass, woodwinds, strings choruses, percussion, and even more instruments to enhance the effect of the music, and if one violin falls flat you probably wont hear it....
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Post by not azerty on Jan 25, 2004 22:19:40 GMT -5
to keep on topic, my mom has this cd called Heavy Classix www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002SO9/qid=1075086388/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-3392996-1697611?v=glance&s=classical it's classical music for people that like heavy metal but have never really been exposed to good classical music. most of the songs you've heard before but probably never really thought about them. my personal favorites are numbers 2, 11, and 13. 10 is from d**nation of faust. i've seen it and it was hilarious! only that was last season. it just made me think of the barber of sevilla which i loved and i'm now obsessed with the guy who was figaro. oh and the girl in it is a mezzo so i'm all excited about that. hmm, metal? that's more my sisters generation. she really likes ramstein but i can never listen to them because i can't stop laughing at them. but i love them all the same. -kylie
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Post by bezzerkker on Jan 25, 2004 23:36:56 GMT -5
Personally, I do not particullarily enjoy the homophony, or monophony, and rigid structure and restraint that Classical music often displays. I prefer things from the Romantic Period or later, for example, I would rather listen to Beethoven than Mozart or Hadyn.
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Post by Archagon on Jan 26, 2004 22:40:17 GMT -5
Oh! I forgot about a whole bunch of great metal songs! Here is my top metal list, for anyone interested (at least check them out):
SONGS: *She Is My Sin - Nightwish (wonderful nightsong [majestic minor rock, usually in A-minor (it's my word, btw)] - opera mixed with metal) *Out of the Silent Planet - Iron Maiden (the lyrics convey a very depressing outlook on life) *Back in Black - ACDC (the ultimate rock out song - you cannot resist head-nodding to this one) *Master of Puppets - Metallica (I love this song - the quintessence of metal) *Sonne - Rammstein (Rammstein has a way of making their songs seem demonic when really they are talking about beautiful things; this song is about the sun)
ALBUMS: *Master of Puppets - Metallica (it takes a while to get used to their music, but I think all in all it is a very good album) *Mutter - Rammstein (melodic hard rock - what more could you ask for?) *System of a Down - Toxicity
*The Wall - Pink Floyd (I know this isn't metal, but I'm including it just for the heck of it, for I consider this one of the best albums ever made. If you have not listened to it yet, you should - it is beautiful)
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Post by AZERTY on Jan 28, 2004 2:47:21 GMT -5
remember that many of the more famous composers werent constrained to rigid structures because in fact they often made the strurctures up. Many of the more famous ones developed significantly the form of music, at least the earlier composers. Personally I dont like much of Bheethovens stuff, most of it is too boring.
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Post by bezzerkker on Jan 29, 2004 0:25:55 GMT -5
it just sounds to rigid for me, personally the only two classical pieces of music I have heard and liked are Tocatta and Fuge in Dminor and Fur Elise, and I've forgotten who did them, and I'm not even sure if Tocatta and Fuge in Dminor is classica
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Post by AZERTY on Feb 1, 2004 15:00:19 GMT -5
OF course Toccata and Fugue is classical, unless you want to be specific in which case its baroque, but baroque still falls under the general category of classical music. Furthermore, I beleive you are merely suffering from an underexposure of GOOD classical music, I recommend listening to a lot of bach (since he often writes very good music) listen to some mussorgsky such as night on bald mountain, and even listen to some chopin, rachmaninoff, or Dvorjak (ack I cant spell his name). those composers composed some very good pieces that you are sure to like (btw you probably also like moonlight sonata too... from the kind of music you do like... those composers and pieces would probabably appeal to you.)
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Post by Archagon on Feb 1, 2004 16:11:48 GMT -5
Moonlight Sonata and Fur Elise are very good. I can play them both.
Personally, Bach does not appeal very much to me. Considering that the clavichord was the instrument they used back then, the pieces don't have as much FEELING as Romantic era pieces and further (clavichord can only play keys at a given volume). Actually, that's not entirely true; the pieces DO have feeling, but they're harder to find, like emotions in an abstract painting, but I am not artistic enough yet to appreciate them. Of course, the pianist often adds feelings of his own, but that often ruins the original concept.
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